tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344202303192701972.post1120056479262154255..comments2024-01-11T07:17:00.531-05:00Comments on Dem Bones: Like toothpaste and toilet paperDrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16836469722651598246noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344202303192701972.post-36222962754911845952009-01-20T00:35:00.000-05:002009-01-20T00:35:00.000-05:00Sorry, how pretentious of us. Koinonia - basicall...Sorry, how pretentious of us. <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koinonia" REL="nofollow">Koinonia</A> - basically an intimate community or fellowship.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16836469722651598246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344202303192701972.post-5185834050787472992009-01-19T23:40:00.000-05:002009-01-19T23:40:00.000-05:00BTW, I now know what Koinonia means. No thanks to ...BTW, I now know what Koinonia means. No thanks to you Theology majors who can't decide on a spelling! ;o)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344202303192701972.post-7029481911401206102009-01-19T23:35:00.000-05:002009-01-19T23:35:00.000-05:00Drew,I guess you went to a different Baptist churc...Drew,<BR/><BR/>I guess you went to a different Baptist church than I did. Nobody there had any qualms about mixing church and state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344202303192701972.post-56028171422639610402009-01-19T23:09:00.000-05:002009-01-19T23:09:00.000-05:00I do mean 'communion' in the sense of koinoneia. ...I do mean 'communion' in the sense of koinoneia. As you've said before, excessive individualism has infiltrated theology and led to many, many divisions within the Church. This is manifest in the multitudes of denominations that exist in this country. Perhaps the lack of loyalty to particular denominations is indicative of a turning away from that trend.<BR/><BR/>I think you posted something a while back about bars and AA groups functioning as religious gatherings of sorts on the grounds that they are outlets for genuine fellowship. While I would not reduce religion to koinoneia alone, I would say that--in my experience--it has been lacking in many churches. Theologizing (in the unhealthy, difference-emphasizing sense--maybe better referred to as "ideoligizing"), on the other hand, has not. I, for one, find hope in the fact that Christians seem to be beginning to embrace the former over the latter.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13640440748362845452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344202303192701972.post-58864935591843242822009-01-19T17:17:00.000-05:002009-01-19T17:17:00.000-05:00Interesting Vince. I did say "who has a strong com...Interesting Vince. I did say "who has a strong community atmosphere" to your point. I realize I embedded it too far down the examples, and I agree that this is a powerful force in selecting a church ... to Dean Leonard's point.<BR/><BR/>By 'communion' i assume you mean like community or koinonia, not the actual sacrament. But I am provoked by the thought that community can help trump excessive and unhealthy ideology. Can you go into that further.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16836469722651598246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344202303192701972.post-21449703388973260032009-01-19T11:03:00.000-05:002009-01-19T11:03:00.000-05:00"Without strong theological and denominational dif..."Without strong theological and denominational differentiation, the average church goer approaches church-finding with a consumeristic mentality: i.e., who has the best church music, the best children and youth programs, the best community atmosphere, and the like."<BR/><BR/>or do they base their decision on fellowship and the strength of the connection they develop with other members at a particular church? maybe this could be a good thing insofar as communion is trumping excessive, unhealthy ideology.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13640440748362845452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344202303192701972.post-341486717866435102009-01-18T23:53:00.000-05:002009-01-18T23:53:00.000-05:00No, that is a legitimate point. Maybe this is a g...No, that is a legitimate point. Maybe this is a good thing. I don't know...but in my gut, it leaves a bad taste.<BR/><BR/>I guess, I just have too much Baptist in me, and I think that Baptist polity is good (i.e., seperation of church and state, autonomy of the church). Those are fundamental Baptist tenets, and I don't like that the average person doesn't appreciate these tenets over and against other denominational principles.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16836469722651598246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344202303192701972.post-70747411108347582802009-01-18T22:40:00.000-05:002009-01-18T22:40:00.000-05:00Looking at this from a market standpoint, isn't ha...Looking at this from a market standpoint, isn't having more demoninations good for the overall goal of Christianity, bringing more people to Christ?<BR/><BR/>Also, if you shrink the pool, would you not have more blind faith and less innovation and adaptation?<BR/><BR/>What am I missing here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com